Thanks Mods

I posted about it in another thread. A person who i talk sports with at work, told me it was in the coalfield. Honestly i thought it was a joke. So i ask. I was waiting on a reply, yeah they give the ball players speed. A joke. And that be that.
I hadn't seen the paper or hardly had time to do anything.
There was no real reply.
Then up sprang the post in question. No i didn't think it was right and what i read, yes it did seem, it was in the direction to embrass the family and Leroy, and Burton as a team.
If i had been a moderator it would of been gone. It was not needed and it seem to just be a smear post and attack. And the replies were the same. It's sad and it's bad. You can't always control what goes on on here.
But the family and the team didn't need it. I know Leroy myself if he did it well it's sad. And so is his addiction if he has one.
I also didn't like the idea of what was put in the paper that they arrested him at the ball game. Come on now folks, there was no need to embrass a person, or possibly upset a whole bunch of young men.
They knew where he would be, it wasn't like he was running from the law. And to photograph him while still wearing a Burton coaching shirt? Sounds like some played out a little drama to me. Sheriff's dept. Yes i know the intent may of been good, but i think it was handled badly by all. Yes i know they have a job to do. But 8 PM at a ball game, where they knew the man would be? Sounds like a little made up drama to me.
I was glad the post was taken down. I won't lie about it. The forum didn't need another bunch of crap. And the thread had no intention of anything but smearing the man, the family, and the Burton football squad.
And no im not against freedom of speech but against freedom of smear for the heck of it. If someone wanted to truly discuss it. This part of the forum was the place to put it.
Not out for everyone to interject their thoughts and ideas and smear campaign.

LpD, I'm inclined to agree and disagree both with you. I think it was partially a bit over the top but maybe thats what is needed. I mean he was arrested at the game for the robbery, the drugs were in his possession. We always have people who say that people put sports above other things, if they had waited, they would have been just as guilty. Its a sad horrible state, but addiction we all know is something that many people hide and can pretend isnt a problem. No offense to him, but right now, that apparently can't be the case. I can see both sides of the issue on it, why you would want it to be more publicized, but if it was my own, why I wouldn't want it to be.

All we can do is hope that he can get himself straightened up.

As for the Burton team, this took place at the PV game, it was not last Friday but the Friday before that, I'd say that most of the Burton team and such had over a week to kind of prepare themselves for this and expect things to be said. The only smear you could give the team is having someone with the past issues involved, but we all know that good volunteers are hard to turn down. I don't think the man should be crucified due to his past transgressions either, I mean the old fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me comes to mind.

It's just a sad situation. I hate it for the family and kids. I know Leroy but haven't seen him in probably 10 yrs. He was always nice to me. And i myself wondered at times and heard a few rumors. But we all know how gossip is.
Like i said i just hate it for the family.
As far as the post that was on here. I think some wanted to use to well maybe stir things.
I honestly don't know and it is hard to find folks that will donate their time to help out. It's the same here at Appy. We have to have some who just give of themselves. We can't afford the luxuries some can.
I guess the biggest thing some need to remember is something you said Rocketer, and i thought about it myself.
If it was you or a member of your family would you want it on the forum. I know that is asking a big question. And yes there may of been a write up and it may seem clear cut, however do we add to the embrassement or when do we decide it's time to say ok that is enough.
Like i said above. I am all for free speech and the right to expression. However, i think sometimes a little common sense has to play into the situation. Talking about it here on this section of the forum to me, well that is better than exposing it to all the 13 yr olds, and some who may not understand all of the situation, but will use it to maybe hurt others emotionally.
I know there is times i have said things. Yet if i say publically on the forum. I try to make sure i apologize pubically on the forum.
I just honestly don't think the kids needed something to throw around, to hurt a family already suffering.
And anyone who knows anyone who has suffered addiction, it's hard on all, the person, the family and friends.
To me i think of it about like it was when i suffered some problems in my life with illness. Had it not been for family, good friends and hope, who knows. Same as with this situation.

Well said LPDFTBL. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Again I bring up the fact that it was ok to discuss the baby in Norton that was horrbily assaulted, that post had a lot of hits. Why was this was called in to question when the same type of embarassment was used...things about where the mom was etc etc....To me it is no different. It looked like a double standard.

Well we didn't have this forum and honestly it seem that since the one person was mentally challenged or handicapped no one wanted to discuss it.
And the names were put out there as in this case. It was less pronounced i guess you would say, this is not as that situation. One due to the publicity it received from WCYB and others and local newpapers.
That is my opinion. If i had my way. Any one who hurt or abused a child in any way shape or form would get good old country justice. No police or judge needed. Just a few good ole country boys and well a big hole.
Sorry to be so blunt. But when it comes to children i have no problem.
In the situation you mention everyone started the not mentally stable? If not how did they know what to do? No to me i would discusss it.
But i'd rather discuss it with the person who did the violation. Sorry again to be so blunt.
One difference one made a mistake due to addiction. Two one person was given the opportunity and was known as a person who would do this if possible. And yet a mother let it happen knowing the person?
Guess i spent to much time around kids and well football players and boys i watched grow up to be young men. And well my own son and nieces and nephews. If it was one of them.
I don't think the local police would have to worry about it. Even though i may have a number. I'd have my own justice.

I agree with you on the if it is to be discussed then on this Old Timer section...I understand that and agree, that was not what I meant.

I am making an observation that it seems something are considered off limits when others that are equally as sensitive are not. This is not aimed towards you at all I was just responding to the situation.

Some people may think that it wrong, some may think that only one mod is doing their job or whatever. I just think that I agree with Counts on this one.

I agree to and i dont' want you to think i was blasting you.
But both situations hit me hard. A person i know and then a kid i didn't know but just being a kid.

I don't know i am just glad i am not judge, jury and executioner. If anything i'd like to smack the crap out of Leroy and say why, do this to your family and kids.

And the one who abused the child. I'd have no problem with an old abandoned strip mine and an old fashion beating. Sorry and i don't mean to be rude or blunt. But to harm a child? I can't see it. My baby is 22 and i still think of him as my baby.

Again i didn't say it was wrong. But i just don't think on the other forum it helped, the kids don't need the added attention due to dad's mistake.

Here we can talk about it. And hopefully not let it make problems. But kids can be brutal to each other. I think any parent knows that. It's sad but honestly, if anything i'd like to say ole friend why.

Its like this, because of his lat name, it links it even more, I heard so many people say Lorenzos dad, well he isnt. Its just a situation where itd been fine to post what happen, but what is to discuss about it? The details is in the story, then you had some person reply with "Maybe its time for drug testing for the Burton football team" MODS cant be here all the time, it only takes 10 mins of a MOD not bein here before it becomes a court issue. And for that comment there isnt a team around that at least one player wouldnt fail a drug test. The odds are against that.


This is just a reply to a topic in general. Not directed at anyone.

thanks everyone i just did not want this to get way out of hand. in my opionion it was just about ready to do that.